Loose rules of conduct.

[Seneschal]

Just throwing this out here...

Don't ask me when a raid starts. I've never once not put the starting time in the sign-up thread. I will ignore you when you ask this. If you ask me again, I might be snarky. If you ask me a third time, you may lose your spot.

Don't rush me. I go at my own pace, and when I am influenced by others to go quicker, then I miss things and that's when we usually lose more than we should. If things are moving too slow for you, we have reserves. I hate being rushed, and it's my place to go at my pace. Thrall has too many endgame guilds for you to stay and rush me if we're not moving at your speed. TRUST ME, I realize that we're going slower, but if that means that in time we go faster, then I'm going to do it. We didn't beat ZG in a day, it took time. Same with MC, same with Ony, BWL, and the future BC instances we do.

I don't mind people signing up on a "hunch" they'll come, but you tell me it's a hunch. Tell me for whatever reason why you might not be there and why you might be late. It slows all of us down if we have to wait an hour because everyone is there on a "hunch"; if you give me a reason I don't have to wait and then I don't have to be angry. Help me out a little.

Don't leave or hearth at the end of a raid until I call it. This gets me flaming raging unextinguishably angry. For one reason, someone talks me into "another go", another reason is "we may go after another boss." A third reason is it's very rude. I'm not going to sit there and prolong the raid just to spite you, so be kind and wait until I officially call it.

You guys are amazing players and people, but these are the things I see that need to be fixed. And be sure, I've had tons of things I could fix and I'm always working on being a better leader to you guys. It's a two-sided coin; help me to help you.

[Rogosh]

/signed

[uhtoh]

Kinda feel i should appoligize cause of the other night, carma told me it was a big deal after we left. I was catching some wife agro ( she wanted me to get off and come to bed lol ) the wipes previous to that, and i heard sen say this was the last won for him if we wiped cause he was tired too.

I dont want anyone to think i was disgusted or just bailing for the heck of it or anything elitist like. I was just tired and what not and realize now i should of just said something.

As far as overdose goes, i know they have left a bad taste in alot of you guys mouth and im sorry for that, I just happen to know one of them in RL and kinda have hung out / pvped with a few of them on the other server, thats why im in thier sub guild Underdose. But i by no means condone any of the BS they pull, but its only a few of them like that, some of them are really nice people.

But because of the rep they have I havent really told any of them about ESA because i wanted my ESA experience to stay positive. ( With the exception of Carmasutra who is my brother )

Anywho this is a little insight about who i am and what my deal is and hopefully going foward we can have many good times together.

The progress we have made like in MC and whatnot has been amazing for the kind of hodgepodge (lol) group we have. I'm excited about the game again for the first time in a long time and its been because of doing stuff with you guys, whether raiding or UBRS or w/e its been great!

Anyways after this wall fo rambling text that im sure no one will read, to sum it up :

I'm sorry and it wont happen again.

[Seneschal]

Don't worry Uhtoh, I'm already over it.

[shyrah]

I think it all got worked out that night. Just a huge misunderstanding =) I enjoy seeing you around Uhtoh.

[shalay]

Uhtoh, people do read and care what you say - good on ya for speaking up
Shalay

[Taalos]

I CALL NO MAN MASTER!!!


well except that one time, hehe, you remember...

[calhoun]

Sen.. can you please add to those rules: DO NOT COMBAT LOOT or Calhoun will Holy-shock your booty bay.

[necromagus]

calhoun said:

Sen.. can you please add to those rules: DO NOT COMBAT LOOT or Calhoun will Holy-shock your booty bay.

Surprised the profanity filter didnt catch that.

[darkire]

Hilarious, Calhoun, just hilarious...

[jaenia]

This is actually the third alliance I've been in during my WoW play-time.

The first two I was in were both on different servers, one alliance and the other horde. The funny bit was they both had the same number one rule: Don't be a thingy.

I like that rule.

Edit: Hehe, I knew the profanity filter would catch that but I wanted to see what it would change it to. Want to know what it really is?

It starts with D and ends in ICK.

[shyrah]

Lol My guild's number one rule when on Durotan was " Don't be a jackass" Same concept =)

EDIT: Haha the profanity filter sees it as a farm animal

[darkire]

jaenia said:

This is actually the third alliance I've been in during my WoW play-time.

The first two I was in were both on different servers, one alliance and the other horde. The funny bit was they both had the same number one rule: Don't be a thingy.

I like that rule.

Edit: Hehe, I knew the profanity filter would catch that but I wanted to see what it would change it to. Want to know what it really is?

It starts with D and ends in ICK.

Actually, according to some people, they ALL end in "ick", but that's another story for another forum, me thinks...

[necromagus]

jaenia said:

It starts with D and ends in ICK.

And it isnt 'dipstick'

Seriously though, I'm not looking for ESA to be a place where we teach children how to act like adults. We tell people what we expect of them, and if they cant deliver a certain level of maturity, this probably isnt the place for them. If a ten year old who raids with us can do it, I think the rest of them can manage somehow.

Not everyone is used to the logistical implications of a 40 man raid or 40 people on vent, so first time there's a problem, we tell them. They may not see what they're doing as being a t h i n g y-head. Or like Sen says, common sense isnt always that common among all people. Everyone has their own wildly varying opinion about what is 'reasonable'. It's our job to say up front what we expect. If people dont like it, we'll refund their ESA membership fee.

The difference is, if we've already said five times not to do this, but people are still interrupting the boss strategy rundown to ask all 39 members of the raid for Blessing of NoobResistance, it may be time to do something about it. We owe it to the rest of our members not to let people mistake our kindness for weakness that can be taken advantage of - and in the process, ruining the fun for the vast majority of our members that are making a positive contribution.